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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.03.31 18:54:39 -
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I like the fact that you're taking away literally every reason there is to fly a carrier for those that can afford supercarriers.
There's nothing distinctive or better about carriers in this patch except that they're somewhat cheaper and proportionally crappier and oh here's a bonus to ewar effects on fighters that will get within range anyway and make the bonus pointless. |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.03.31 21:32:35 -
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Syrias Bizniz wrote:No need to fear carriers stepping into Super's terrain anyways.
No, the opposite is my concern.
There's no reason to use carriers as these stats are aside from them being cheaper. |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.03.31 21:34:27 -
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My proposal to fix this is very simple:
Don't allow supers to use support fighters. They'll get their superweapons instead. Carriers will be the only platform to use support fighters. |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.04.04 01:44:38 -
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Miss 'Assassination' Cayman wrote:Side1Bu2Rnz9 wrote:So, carriers are essentially going to die (both figuratively and literally) in current future fleet meta. Dreads will outgun them (both in terms of fitting guns  and having a crap ton more dps) in in both subcap and capital engagements. Carriers are also now not only stripped of a role but also nerfed to **** when compared to dreads. CCP congrats on creating Dreads Online... Time to unsub my carriers pilots or some how get them into supers or faxes... no use now (based on the stats listed) for even undocking these piece of sh**s. Completely disappointed yet again in CCP... That might be a bit hasty. First of all, dreads don't really outgun carriers by that much against subcaps. On paper, once they get the skill bonuses fixed carriers will have 4000-5000 DPS when fully DPS fit. They're also better at hitting frigates and destroyers, as well as anything that gets super close. The fact that they can receive remote repairs also allows them to survive longer than dreads in larger engagements. That said, they do seem to be sort of lacking in certain ways, but CCP needs to fix the skill bonuses so we can see the true stats before figuring out how to use or balance them.
Are they better than supers at doing any of these things?
No.
They're useless. |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.04.04 07:24:49 -
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Miss 'Assassination' Cayman wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:Miss 'Assassination' Cayman wrote:Side1Bu2Rnz9 wrote:So, carriers are essentially going to die (both figuratively and literally) in current future fleet meta. Dreads will outgun them (both in terms of fitting guns and having a crap ton more dps) in in both subcap and capital engagements. Carriers are also now not only stripped of a role but also nerfed to **** when compared to dreads. CCP congrats on creating Dreads Online... Time to unsub my carriers pilots or some how get them into supers or faxes... no use now (based on the stats listed) for even undocking these piece of sh**s. Completely disappointed yet again in CCP... That might be a bit hasty. First of all, dreads don't really outgun carriers by that much against subcaps. On paper, once they get the skill bonuses fixed carriers will have 4000-5000 DPS when fully DPS fit. They're also better at hitting frigates and destroyers, as well as anything that gets super close. The fact that they can receive remote repairs also allows them to survive longer than dreads in larger engagements. That said, they do seem to be sort of lacking in certain ways, but CCP needs to fix the skill bonuses so we can see the true stats before figuring out how to use or balance them. Are they better than supers at doing any of these things? No. They're useless. Are dreads better than titans at doing any of these things? No. They're useless. Seriously though, it does seem a little annoying how supers can do everything a carrier can but better and a titan can do everything a dread can but better.
CCP seems to have a very selective imagination. Enough to radically change how capitals work, but not enough to differentiate them from each other. |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.04.08 14:38:43 -
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CCP would you mind addressing our concerns re. the role of carriers in this upcoming expansion? Some of us feel that there's no reason to use them over supercarriers now that they're losing three of their main advantages (ability to use normal drones, ability to triage, and ability to dock). |
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